Comment to 'Was Darwin's theory of evolution correct and humans evolved from apes?'
Comment to Was Darwin's theory of evolution correct and humans evolved from apes?

  • Hi Urs! 

    Thanks so much for sharing so many thoughts with us!

    I'd also stand with the scientific community that it was probably evolution that has helped to form the homo sapiens. But I do believe there are some gaps in our knowledge and it's not entirely clear at what time humans jumped from the state of apes to being creatures capable of using a language. Who knows maybe it took some aliens to help make this transition. 

    As for Darwin's theories fueling some Nazi ideologues - that's very interesting. I haven't heard much of it, thanks for bringing that up! Indeed, humans often tend to distort narratives and fit them into what is beneficial to them. Nazis definitely misused Darwin's theories.. 

    As for religious viewpoints, I doubt that the scripture and other religious scripts contained any scientific facts. But before the death of God (as Nietzsche formulated it) these scripts had allowed humans to navigate the world and explain the unexplainable. They have some heuristics and little wisdoms that have been compiling for many centuries.

    The good thing about religious texts is that they made humans humble before the nature (or be it God as they claim) rather than making humans arrogant and capable of daring to challenge the nature and coming up with crazy ideas that justify their darkest intentions.. 

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    • Hi Sacha,

      Many thanks for replying!

      Just one small remark on religion.

      For a long time Christians believed what they could read in a popular Latin Bible and, later, in the translated German Bible of Luther as well who was a protestant:

      "Subdue the Earth".
      In German:
      "Mache Dir die Erde untertan."

      But, as funny as it appears, there had been a slip up in the translation from the original text in Hebrew.
      There it's all about being a good shepherd...

      So much for taking a sentence out of its context and translate it so it perfectly fits your own personal view on your world...;)

      But I totally agree with you that religion helped people (or, at least, most of them) to feel humble towards God and Nature, and that is a good advise, indeed.

      Not much of that humbleness is left, nowadays. I guess, we might pay the price now for some sins committed over the last decades/centuries.

      On the other hand:
      It is hard to believe, but we have to remind ourselves that in the 1950 the population on earth amounted to only 2,53 billion humans, whereas in 2020 population has reached a high point around 7,79 billion.
      That is a challenge, of course, for all of us, in terms of resources, biodiversity, toxic substances and we might end up struggling for survival.

      No one can be blamed about that growth in my view, it is just a matter of fact.
      The only thing we can do is to try and find a way to slow it down and deal with the consequences.

      -> Have you ever thought about adding a chat on how to get a grip on growth of population or climate change on Keenston?

      Or do you fear that this topic would lead to heated debates?
      I wonder what your viewpoint is on that.

      Have a nice Weekend now!

      Very kindly,
      Urs


      P.s: I saw that you explained why members should contribute to the website. I would be happy to do that if you tell me how to go about it.
      And what do you think: would it be wise to sort of suggest topics to you before opening up a new topic? Or do you trust your members on being wise enough...?;)
      On some platforms, things tend to get out of hands, unfortunately!

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      • Hi Urs, 

        Thanks again for so many interesting insights! 

        Checked the Russian translation of Genesis 1:28 and it also basically says "subdue the Earth" (наполняйте землю, и обладайте ею).. 

        Who knows, perhaps if the Bible had been translated properly, people would've been a little less zealous in subduing the Earth :D

        I wonder what's going to be the sense making mechanism in the decades and centuries ahead since the religious mechanisms (at least in the Christian world) are gradually dissipating.. Is it going to be consumerism and constant pleasure seeking, politics or maybe a new religion? Or who knows, maybe Christianity will come back. At least in Russia it seems like religion is getting slowly back to some layers of society. Very interesting how it will pan out. 

        If you could participate/create your own debates, I'd be super happy! Whatever you feel like is worth doing, please do:) I'd only kindly ask that you write your thoughts under one of the opinions, presented in the debate, like in this example https://keenston.com/page/view-debate?id=15  Or maybe under both opinions if you like - some  thought on the "pros" and some on the "cons".  That would be wonderful! So that then other users could respond to certain theses. If the debate is public, debate visitors can vote for a certain opinion based on what they've learned from reading different theses.  

        Let me create a couple of debates on over-population and climate change:) we could start from that

        Thanks a lot! 

        Sasha

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